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Squad character development by joulester Squad character development by joulester
Further character developments for my WIP comic book Squad, as well as some developments of the squad armor that Sergeant Phyllis hates so much to don. "You get shot, you get shot! What is there to armor about?" she argues. "It's essential in the first part of the story," I said. "Pssssssh #&#>X<*%!" She hisses.

I'm using Sarge Phyllis as the base for the armor design for all the characters. I just so love to draw her! =P My inspiration for the armor is from Halo, and my prime concern is that I might've gone too close. What do you think? Too Master Chief? Workable? Please let me know your thoughts! ;)

Happy to say that the story is going well. However it has taken quite a grim tone, so I've been thinking about upping the target audience age a bit in the visual side. Thus I've been playing around with maybe ditching the previously done big-head, child-like proportions and making them a tad more adult. Challenging, but I kind of like this new evolution. I wager there'd be more evolutions to come for the designs while I write the story, but I think I'll stick to this style for now.
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wakato Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The armor looks pretty swell! The green and shoulder *armor humps* are definitely Halo-esque, but not immediately noticeable.

The Carapace armor from XCOM looks somewhat like this, at least the chestplate. Must be the bulky nature of the chestpiece contrasting with the more slender limb armors (here's the Wiki entry, pictures included: xcom.wikia.com/wiki/Carapace_A…

I like the helmet, but it looks like a WWII tanker's helmet. It reminds me of soft materials, like a softcap instead of armor (this is purely personal opinion, 'cause I'm a history nerd). Maybe you could try helmets with visors or full-mask helmets? 
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joulester Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Much appreciated for the valuable input, wakato! :aww: Yes, I intend to make the looks not so far into the future, hence the helmet design. It is indeed partly made up of soft materials instead of all-round hard material.

I went to the link you sent but there isn't any images. From your point of view, can you explain more about carapace armors?
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wakato Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, sorry. Something must've gone wrong with the DeviantArt link system. Here's the link again

xcom.wikia.com/wiki/Carapace_A…

You can also look over their other armors! Their designs are pretty interesting :D
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Anthrotastic Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2014  Student General Artist
Katia Managan?
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joulester Featured By Owner Edited Jan 31, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
ou, so sorry! I meant to reply the person before you
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Anthrotastic Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2015  Student General Artist
np
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joulester Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
thanks, goeliath! =)
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goeliath Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm liking your little critter characters, they look so fun
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joulester Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
thanks, goeliath! :aww:
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ACEnBEAKY Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014
Ok, this is cool. And in an exaggerated way, reminds me of the gear I wore downrange. 
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joulester Featured By Owner May 1, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Glad to hear that! Do let me know if there's anything I could add or change to make things more believable.
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SHARK-008 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Can't wait to see more ( for a strange reason I miss lot of your art :/ ).
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joulester Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks. :nod: I've been really busy lately with work, I miss drawing too. I'll try to do more in the coming weeks :aww:
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SHARK-008 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I can't wait for that then. :D

Plus your perhap future comics with your squad. ;) ;)
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joulester Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks. :aww: I can't wait for that too. I wish I have more energy every day to do more. 
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SHARK-008 Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
me too :)
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Mister-Saturn Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I swear when this comic is ready I'm going to read the crap out of it. I love the character designs so much.
And honestly I think the armor looks fine. A lot of sci-fi armor has that Halo-esque look anyway me-thinks.
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joulester Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Wow, thanks! =D That's awesome. I hope to finish it ASAP, too. Been hitting a lot of snags lately, especially in the story part, so I'm currently looking/waiting for some inspiration to carry on.
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Mister-Saturn Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You're very welcome!
I can understand that one. I've been like that with a lot of story ideas XD
Good luck to both of us
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Bush-Master Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2013
Really good to see more Squad stuff.
I'll be really interested to read the finished product but till then this is really cool to see/read/learn about characters/world.

As far as armour goes, the head, chest and arms look really good; not too bulky, they have that tactical feel like they could be worn for a long time and not reduce flexability too much, in other words; not assult armour (read WH40K space marines). tha armour at arond waist level concerns me, the massive cone-looking piece at the front looks very uncomfortable to run with or go prone on and from the shape of it could wind someone if they go flat in a hurry (taking cover). I do like the spine cover on the back, and the hip plates being separate from the leg guards is cool but I wonder if they mightn't be made to wrap around the back more, there's a lot exposed on the back of the torso. I like the concept of the leg armour being slid over the pants and the way the knee guard is intergrated into the combat pants, I read your reply to SeannyJay:"The dark part is supposed to be elastic" so I wont mention the anything more about them now.

In regards to the other pictures on the page: bloody good, I like everything I see, but my favorite has to be the bottom right; get a real sense of bored alertness, like she's been waiting in place for a while for something to happen.

I hope this was helpful.
Really love your work.
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joulester Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you very much , sir. ^_^ I'm relieved that the armor strikes you as not the heavy or 'assault' type, ala WH40K. I wanted an armor for behind the lines, prolonged missions over rough and mucky terrain, like you implied above. Glad that I've achieved that. =)

I guess I became too dogged for a completely different and off-worldly look as compared to the more acclaimed designs already out there in games and movies. I kind of lost focus and concentrated purely on the aesthetic and neglected the practical aspect of the design. Your observations and tips certainly help nudge things back into perspective.

Thanks very much also for mentioning about the things that you fancy here. It gives me a clearer idea of which elements to consider keeping or scrapping. It feels good to know my characters appeal to audiences and viewers, too. This really helps!

Appreciate your effort, it means a lot! =D
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
I've never played Halo, so I cannot comment on the armour design.... However, I'm certainly not averse to a grimmer and more mature story. :dummy:
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joulester Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
No problem friend, and thanks all the same! :thanks: I love grim settings and stories too
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alphaleo14 Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013
good to see that your Squad are coming together, and really hope that your comic to role out soon, the armor was really cool, mybe you should try some digital camo for it. by the way i found this may be useful for you [link]
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joulester Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Wow, thanks! This installment of Starship Troopers is very impressive. The ships are baaaaaaaadass! So Johnny Rico's a general now.

Yeah, thanks, I hope so too. I'm just going at a relaxing pace for now. Want to balance between work and rest. I don't want to overdo it as I know NO FREAKING GOOD will come out of rushing things. Gonna regret it later.

Digi-camo is in my mind as well as various other color schemes. I'm gonna try those as soon as I lock down the design theme for the whole world of Squad. Save the best and most fun for last! :woohoo:
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alphaleo14 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
well, the new starship trooper was done by japanese studio, oh yes they have mechs now and general rico pilots one.

if you ever found the download, download it, it's worth the time, story are so so, but the pre production was nice
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joulester Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Ah, ok I see. I didn;t read the article thorughout, but I thought the japanese had a hand in this. The robot and ship designs sort of gave some hints to me about it. The 3D characters are also reminiscent of FF The Spirits Within.

Damn, production design is really good! :nuu:
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alphaleo14 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013
well, i saw the movie, it does have the FF feel to it, i really like their drop ship design and the mech suit, if u ask me the design a way better than starship trooper 3 mech suit, never let american do mechs thats for sure
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Otakuwolf Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ohh puffy clothigns and bulky armor, reminds me a bit of Gears Of war ^^
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joulester Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks :aww: I've never played gears of war before, but after googling it yeah I see what you mean with the big legs.
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beltminer Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013
i have never seen anyone put more life into a character with such a light touch. i'll never understand how animals can look so human. you have a real gift brother. every line, every stroke, nothing overworked. just
really wonderful. cant wait to see more.
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joulester Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you, brother. :aww: I guess it's a recipe I developed and honed ever since I was a child. I've been drawing animal comics since then. Still a long way to go and many more hidden jewels to discover. Along the way, I am extremely grateful for support such as yours. It makes this journey much, much more pleasant. :nod:
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Colourbrand Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oops! forgot to say excellent work sir :D
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joulester Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
:highfive: Thank you!
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Colourbrand Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If you feel you need to up it - do it only if its crucial to the story. Don't go for shock for shock sake.

Again, excellent body work, and poses are neat - as for the HALO armour - I canne see the thing except the green may be a clue - but then again most military things are this colour anyway.
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joulester Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I can't agree more with you more. :nod: Personally, compared to adhering to worldly trends, I prefer to stay the course of what I believe in, give my beliefs a chance to blossom first. A little knowledge in the current trend do certainly help some, but for me it's just a mere guide and I try not to conform to it too much. If I keep altering my designs to suit the ever-changing, ever-morphing tastes of the world, my design work will never finish. >.< Plus, I can never satisfy everyone. :paranoid:

Thank you for taking the time, sir :aww: I value what you've said, and I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thanks also for the feedback on the armor and the compliments! It's a great encouragement! =D
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Colourbrand Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Glad to be of service to a grand talent like you sir - and YOU ARE!!!! :D
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WilburMercer Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2013
great as always... I wonder what she's crying for though...

Love the development -- not too "master-chief-ish" at all! superb work!
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joulester Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you, sir :aww: She is a very complex character. :o Unstable as a time bomb, but very pleasant and a blessing if rubbed the right way.
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ArtisticAnri Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2013  Student General Artist
Very Master Chief like but it looks good :)
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joulester Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks very much :aww:
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BlitzJaeger Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2013
Really excited to see your characters, I hope the comic is getting close/further? (How much can you tell us followers?)

As to the armor, green is green, I dont find it THAT Halo like just for being armor. However I do think, along the common mentioned themes, that the abdomen area needs redone a bit? Perhaps go heavier on the chest details and a more simplistic even boring middle.

Personally I love the baggy pants and the wider leg armor, but that's just an aesthetically pleasing look for your comic characters I think. The heavy bottoms, and mid/smaller torsos and with their cartoon heads balance nicely IMO. Keeps them sort of "grounded" visually and for me, I find the result is I focus much more on their expressions.

Overall I love the semi-realistic meets cartoon style. Really looking forward to the end results, but these character sheets have been a nice tease. =)
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joulester Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Very interesting to note! :omfg: What you said about the characters' expressions is being focused on more is very insightful and valuable design data. I value that very much! =D

I also like what you said about going heavier on the chest details and a more simple middle for the armor. I can already picture it in my head, and it's helpful input. I think I'm going to try that. :nod: Thank you!

As for the progress, well, there are altogether 13 protagonists currently planned for the story - Phyllis is just one of them. The other 12 are more or less locked in visuals already, too. :nuu: I'm still thinking up a visual theme for the baddies. I've already decided what they are, I only have to develop a common look for them. This has been re-done 4-5 times, so far.

So far the story has been redone countless times also, :crazy: to iron out inconsistency issues. I already have a few chapters prepped up in the hangar and ready for launch, but to draw them now would be inviting disaster later as more inconsistencies will surely arise due to the story and world still being developed hand-in-hand with the visuals. I prefer to finish the full story arc, or at least finish it 90% first, before I start drawing the first chapter. And sorry to say that might take a while still.

Glad that you like what I've hatched so far in the visuals! All in all, my challenge is to find a balance between what I want, what people like to see, what looks original, what's the current design trend, and keeping it all within the message I want to tell in this story. Plus also keep in mind what can and can not be told to not offend certain parties. It's maddening :facepalm:, but I consider this problem glorious :eager:

Thanks very much for your time in following this project and for your support! =D I appreciate your feedback, for it's a great help. :nod:
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BlitzJaeger Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013
Being in the middle of writing a novel, I can fully empathize with your deadlines, goals, and the balance of what everyyone wants...its a nightmare at times I know!

I am glad at least your in progress, I loved your characters the first time I found them, and am eager to see them have their own story.

As to feedback, whatever you find useful I am glad to help. As a fellow artist I appreciate the feedback of followers/public and so wish to help out those I watch as well. I know sometimes you just want to gauge the public and see what they think. Hopefully you can find what you were looking for to make your designs feel more complete to you.

I will be watching your progress and look forward to more! Cheers. =)
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RichTheWolf257 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Look at those hips...
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joulester Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
She's in her childbearing years, now :aww:
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RichTheWolf257 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Then I bet she has an AMAZING oven!
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joulester Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Oof. Let's not go there. =P
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RichTheWolf257 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Meh. Ok.
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joulester Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for that. :nod:
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